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	<title>Comments on: More On Leopard Mail.app Freezes</title>
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		<title>By: jengo</title>
		<link>http://jimmitchell.org/2007/12/23/more-on-leopard-mailapp-freezes/comment-page-1/#comment-329</link>
		<dc:creator>jengo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Apr 2008 17:05:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I don&#039;t have GrowlMail installed (I can&#039;t stand growl).  I  am having issues with Mail.app at least once a week when I bring my MBP out of sleep mode.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Although its quite possible GrowlMail is making it worse, I don&#039;t think its the underlying cause.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t have GrowlMail installed (I can&#8217;t stand growl).  I  am having issues with Mail.app at least once a week when I bring my MBP out of sleep mode.</p>

<p>Although its quite possible GrowlMail is making it worse, I don&#8217;t think its the underlying cause.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: adam</title>
		<link>http://jimmitchell.org/2007/12/23/more-on-leopard-mailapp-freezes/comment-page-1/#comment-328</link>
		<dc:creator>adam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Mar 2008 04:41:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Excellent! thanks for posting! Been looking for a solution for this for quite some time!&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Where is mail.appetizer!? =/&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Cheers mate, thanks again.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent! thanks for posting! Been looking for a solution for this for quite some time!</p>

<p>Where is mail.appetizer!? =/</p>

<p>Cheers mate, thanks again.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Mikolai Fajer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mikolai Fajer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Feb 2008 02:43:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;And thanks from me as well!  Uninstalling growlmail did the trick... I couldn&#039;t figure out why Mail.app had suddenly stopped synchronizing!&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And thanks from me as well!  Uninstalling growlmail did the trick&#8230; I couldn&#8217;t figure out why Mail.app had suddenly stopped synchronizing!</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Fernie</title>
		<link>http://jimmitchell.org/2007/12/23/more-on-leopard-mailapp-freezes/comment-page-1/#comment-326</link>
		<dc:creator>Fernie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Feb 2008 03:56:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I don&#039;t have growl and I&#039;m still having issues with Mail not downloading emails or sending them :(&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t have growl and I&#8217;m still having issues with Mail not downloading emails or sending them <img src='http://jimmitchell.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Josue Salazar</title>
		<link>http://jimmitchell.org/2007/12/23/more-on-leopard-mailapp-freezes/comment-page-1/#comment-325</link>
		<dc:creator>Josue Salazar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2008 17:41:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Hey Peter, thanks for digging into this, i uninstalled growlmail and everything&#039;s back to normal.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Peter, thanks for digging into this, i uninstalled growlmail and everything&#8217;s back to normal.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: William Reese</title>
		<link>http://jimmitchell.org/2007/12/23/more-on-leopard-mailapp-freezes/comment-page-1/#comment-324</link>
		<dc:creator>William Reese</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2008 01:43:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Thanks for the help ... I was about to pull my hair out, and that wouldn&#039;t be cool.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the help &#8230; I was about to pull my hair out, and that wouldn&#8217;t be cool.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Jim Mitchell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim Mitchell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jan 2008 00:42:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Thanks Peter! I can&#039;t even begin to tell you how lost I&#039;ve been without GrowlMail...&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;People: follow Peter&#039;s direction - if you have issues, send your crash logs to the mailing list.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;And stick to what the beta page says - DON&#039;T post the beta to software sites (VT, MacUpdate) or announce it elsewhere. Just evaluate it &amp; report bugs. That&#039;s what caused all the confusion behind this post to begin with.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Peter! I can&#8217;t even begin to tell you how lost I&#8217;ve been without GrowlMail&#8230;</p>

<p>People: follow Peter&#8217;s direction &#8211; if you have issues, send your crash logs to the mailing list.</p>

<p>And stick to what the beta page says &#8211; DON&#8217;T post the beta to software sites (VT, MacUpdate) or announce it elsewhere. Just evaluate it &amp; report bugs. That&#8217;s what caused all the confusion behind this post to begin with.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Peter Hosey</title>
		<link>http://jimmitchell.org/2007/12/23/more-on-leopard-mailapp-freezes/comment-page-1/#comment-322</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter Hosey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jan 2008 00:10:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Roderick: We ask that you send crash logs to the list, so that all our developers can read the crash log.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Everyone: I posted GrowlMail 1.1.3b1 today. This is a real public beta of the Leopard-compatible GrowlMail. &lt;a href=&quot;http://growl.info/beta.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;It&#039;s on our beta page&lt;/a&gt;, and we have a &lt;a href=&quot;http://groups.google.com/group/growldiscuss/browse_frm/thread/c662e038a38cf665&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;mailing list thread&lt;/a&gt; for bug reports.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Roderick: We ask that you send crash logs to the list, so that all our developers can read the crash log.</p>

<p>Everyone: I posted GrowlMail 1.1.3b1 today. This is a real public beta of the Leopard-compatible GrowlMail. <a href="http://growl.info/beta.html" rel="nofollow">It&#8217;s on our beta page</a>, and we have a <a href="http://groups.google.com/group/growldiscuss/browse_frm/thread/c662e038a38cf665" rel="nofollow">mailing list thread</a> for bug reports.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Laurens</title>
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		<dc:creator>Laurens</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jan 2008 20:31:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Thanks for this info. I can confirm Mail still crashes when any trace of GrowlMail is present - as soon as it starts synching to-do items with my IMAP folder. For good measure Mail has screwed up my mailbox; lots of messages have a subject belonging to the message above. Nightmare. Rebuilding now... fingers crossed.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for this info. I can confirm Mail still crashes when any trace of GrowlMail is present &#8211; as soon as it starts synching to-do items with my IMAP folder. For good measure Mail has screwed up my mailbox; lots of messages have a subject belonging to the message above. Nightmare. Rebuilding now&#8230; fingers crossed.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Luke Hartman</title>
		<link>http://jimmitchell.org/2007/12/23/more-on-leopard-mailapp-freezes/comment-page-1/#comment-320</link>
		<dc:creator>Luke Hartman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jan 2008 01:58:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I&#039;ve had this problem and it was driving me nuts. Thanks for the quick fix! I look forward to a Leopard-working version of GrowlMail soon&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve had this problem and it was driving me nuts. Thanks for the quick fix! I look forward to a Leopard-working version of GrowlMail soon</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Roderick Thomas</title>
		<link>http://jimmitchell.org/2007/12/23/more-on-leopard-mailapp-freezes/comment-page-1/#comment-319</link>
		<dc:creator>Roderick Thomas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jan 2008 23:23:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;@Peter:
Would the crash log help with debugging purposes for the growl developers? If so, it&#039;d be nice to have a private email address than the mailing group to send that information to.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Peter:
Would the crash log help with debugging purposes for the growl developers? If so, it&#8217;d be nice to have a private email address than the mailing group to send that information to.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Roderick Thomas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Roderick Thomas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jan 2008 23:18:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;There is definitely an issue with mail and growl, as I can&#039;t even start mail without it completely crashing. Thanks for posting the information above, hopefully it helps!&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;@Peter, I&#039;m running 1.1.2, which is currently the version on the growl site for download. This doesn&#039;t appear to be an &quot;unofficial build&quot;. I&#039;ll be sure to send my crash log when it happens again...&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is definitely an issue with mail and growl, as I can&#8217;t even start mail without it completely crashing. Thanks for posting the information above, hopefully it helps!</p>

<p>@Peter, I&#8217;m running 1.1.2, which is currently the version on the growl site for download. This doesn&#8217;t appear to be an &#8220;unofficial build&#8221;. I&#8217;ll be sure to send my crash log when it happens again&#8230;</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Jim Mitchell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim Mitchell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Dec 2007 18:00:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;@Peter - If that was a release not meant for public consumption, then my apologies. I would be very glad to help test. I&#039;ll contact you back channel to arrange something.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;@Dhiraj - My instructions above pretty much tell you what files you need to remove, but I&#039;ll try to make them a little clearer; First quit Mail. Then double click your hard drive, then double click the &quot;Library&quot; folder, then double click the &quot;Mail&quot; folder, then double click the &quot;Bundles&quot; folder, and then move the &quot;GrowlMail.bundle&quot; file (it will actually look like a folder) to the trash. Then restart Mail. The bundle has been uninstalled, and you shouldn&#039;t have any more hang issues.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Peter &#8211; If that was a release not meant for public consumption, then my apologies. I would be very glad to help test. I&#8217;ll contact you back channel to arrange something.</p>

<p>@Dhiraj &#8211; My instructions above pretty much tell you what files you need to remove, but I&#8217;ll try to make them a little clearer; First quit Mail. Then double click your hard drive, then double click the &#8220;Library&#8221; folder, then double click the &#8220;Mail&#8221; folder, then double click the &#8220;Bundles&#8221; folder, and then move the &#8220;GrowlMail.bundle&#8221; file (it will actually look like a folder) to the trash. Then restart Mail. The bundle has been uninstalled, and you shouldn&#8217;t have any more hang issues.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Dhiraj Patil</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dhiraj Patil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Dec 2007 17:43:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Growl Mail: what a nightmare, i have my apple mac and gmail accounts set up in mail  app of leopard, i installed growl mail and i stated getting minimum 3 pop ups for same incoming mail , it is annoying.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;now i removed growl mail but still my mail app freezes on its start up , and Growl Mail still exists in MAIL preferences, how do i remove grow mail preferences from apple mail preferences&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Growl Mail: what a nightmare, i have my apple mac and gmail accounts set up in mail  app of leopard, i installed growl mail and i stated getting minimum 3 pop ups for same incoming mail , it is annoying.</p>

<p>now i removed growl mail but still my mail app freezes on its start up , and Growl Mail still exists in MAIL preferences, how do i remove grow mail preferences from apple mail preferences</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Peter Hosey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter Hosey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Dec 2007 20:26:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;GrowlMail&#039;s going to be in beta soon. What I think you saw was an unofficial build that wasn&#039;t meant for public release; since that got out, I&#039;ve fixed a number of known bugs.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;We&#039;d appreciate it if you&#039;d &lt;a href=&quot;http://growl.info/contact.php&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;send us an email&lt;/a&gt; telling us about your â€œlingering problemsâ€ so that we can fix them either in this beta or a subsequent one.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>GrowlMail&#8217;s going to be in beta soon. What I think you saw was an unofficial build that wasn&#8217;t meant for public release; since that got out, I&#8217;ve fixed a number of known bugs.</p>

<p>We&#8217;d appreciate it if you&#8217;d <a href="http://growl.info/contact.php" rel="nofollow">send us an email</a> telling us about your â€œlingering problemsâ€ so that we can fix them either in this beta or a subsequent one.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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